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    ¡¡Un desastre!! La Oscar Mike 2013

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    Mensaje  Panzer Jue Jun 06, 2013 6:12 am

    Parece ser que la tan esperada y afanada cita de airsoft internacional, la Oscar Mike, ha resultado un desastre a tenor de las informaciones que circulan. Denuncias, quejas, desorganización, estafa,robos, etc etc...vamos! un desastre. Es una pena que ocurran estas cosas.
    Algo de información y el comunicado de los organizadores dela Oscar Mike del año pasado.

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    Comunicado de los organizadores de la Oscar Mike 2012

    The 2012 Oscar Mike Organizing Committee Communiqué

    We have largely discussed the need to name the reasons for our disassociation from this. The reason why we are
    doing it now, is the fact that we don’t like others to speak for us and we are tired of being called mercenaries
    and ungrateful.

    All things described here can be proved with the proper documentation.

    Immediately after the elections for all seats in the Associação Lusitana de Airsoft - APD (ALA), July 31st 2011,
    the first meeting for these members was held at the Lourinhã Fire Department Facilities.
    In that same meeting, Rodrigo Loureiro (kaiser) presents a motion to support the Marines Force Recon (team) to
    organize an International Ground Zero. That proposition was refused by the member Pedro Caldeira (Caldeira) for
    the fact that the Marines Force Recon were legally irrelevant, and only an institution like ALA could materialize
    such endeavor.

    With that in mind, a proposition was presented by Pedro Caldeira to the ALA Board of Directors, consisting of the
    creation of an International Events Brand with a structure never before seen in Portugal. An Organizing Committee
    was created involving the following members: Pedro Caldeira (Caldeira), Rui Pires (Penaleve),
    Filipe Mamede (Godddam), Mauro Tavares Van Eck (Ox), Carlos Viana (NocomplY) e Paulo Flor (Flor).

    To ensure some trust to ALA, this O.C. guaranteed that their expenses wouldn’t be included in the budget taking
    all that risk personally. However, in the event of an out coming profit, this would revert to cover those expenses
    of the O.C.
    We compromised in this way, with this risk, because we wanted to do something different, professional and that it
    would show the Country our organizing skills and resolve.

    Proposition was accepted, we started working, we developed contacts and for 8 months this O.C. worked with the
    effort of creating a Brand for ALA. A Brand that today they own and that has a hard to calculate market weight
    and value, we created that Brand because we believed in that project. Today, We look back and think of what we
    achieved with ALA, but, being objective and straight, theses 6 people spent an undefined number of working hours
    FOR ALA, created a Brand, Designed a new image for a renovated and lively ALA, optimizing what was already done
    giving it shape and strength. As we can verify by the ALA internal regulations, the creation of new documents for
    foreign players, several expenses were made of our own money, expenses way over superior to any value that could
    outcome from the event's profit, we put aside our families and friends to ALA's benefit, we did everything in
    ALA's benefit and of this Sport that we LOVE!

    Oscar Mike 2012 took place in April 2012, Moledo Lourinhã, this is our aftermath:

    - 573 athletes;

    - 3 Airsoft (Team tactical game, practical shooting and reenactment);

    - 3 Sports Promotion Associations, united;

    - PSP - DAEXP ,police (guns and explosives dep.) presence at the event, this permitted great contacts and the
    Demystification of opinions on both sides;

    - Airsoft shops together in great number;

    - Support and sponsorship never before managed;

    - Means never before used;

    - Highest level of Institutions involved;

    - Local Population in awe with the presence of the event;

    - 7500 worth of Social Impact;

    - Environmental Impact: 400 trees planted;

    - The Involvement with Entities Extra-Airsoft;

    - The first ever Legal Event in Portugal, with all the permits, authorizations and insurance for every athlete
    enrolled;

    - 3 International Airsoft Magazines present;

    '
    We knew and still know that many things weren't there or failed, nothing is perfect and this game was far from
    it, however many of the read aftermaths made us think if all that work was really worth it...

    More, like anything in life, this Event was a strength drainer, for the O.C., for the Staff at the Event, for ALA
    and as expected fatigue and stress led to some situations that created a pit between the O.C. and the directors
    of ALA.

    The accounts were closed and calculations made, Oscar Mike 2012 presented a profit margin of 3,600.00€, therefore
    each member of the O.C. should get 600.00€, what a cold shower, the O.C. Coordinator alone had expenses that
    mounted up to 1447.00€ (gas, tolls and phone communications alone).

    However the cold shower didn’t end there, the commitment made by ALA to the "Associação do Moledo" of upgrading
    this Association support infrastructures had suffered an over-budget slide which placed ALA in a financial
    compromise, however with the Bonus of receiving land for the building of the new ALA Headquarters, the O.C.
    demonstrated some patience and understanding in the delay of the full financial closure.

    We initiated a negotiation process between the 2012 O.C. and the ALA directors.

    The ALA directors closed all accounts related to OM 2012 except for the payments owed to the 2012 O.C., then a
    Gentleman’s agreement was made, that this would be solved throughout the year of 2012.

    The 2012 O.C. proposed to strengthen the O.C., adding new valuable members: Nuno Tavares (Stuntman), Luís Madeira
    (Timber) e Rafael Domingues (Mano).

    The O.C. brought to the table organizing the Event in Mafra, same athlete target of 800, imposing some things:

    - To open a Bank account in ALA's name for this event alone, controlled by the O.C. and supervised by ALA.;

    - Professional non-Airsoft support Staff;

    - One year's work Expenses for each member of the O.C. calculated in 1000.00€ in the budget ;

    - Catering enterprise foreign to the O.C.;

    - Profit Margin of 0.00€ for the event, in the eventuality of a profit return this was to be directly invested in
    accessories and other logistical assets for the 2014 event.

    This proposal was refused, and given the thick and heavy atmosphere between the 2012 O.C and ALA directors, it
    was decided to part ways.

    Attention, the Oscar Mike Trade Mark being registered by ALA was expected, because this O.C. worked on and created
    It for ALA and their Associates. This was what we compromised with.

    Neste momento apenas 2 elementos da C.O. de 2012 receberam o valor devido.
    As of NOW, only 2 members of the 2012 O.C. got paid what was owed.

    We calmly and peacefully watched the development of this last year, this O.C. in the person of its Coordinator
    collaborated with the person responsible with organizing Oscar Mike 2013, sharing some knowledge and contacts when
    asked. However as you can understand this "divorce" process was difficult for all of us and we decided not to be
    present at this year’s event.

    We are beat with what happened, angry.
    We don’t want to believe how this Brand was taken down like this.

    For what this subject is concerned we do not wish to say anything else because we are foreign to this years
    event. However, we appeal that ALA assumes a preponderant part and please don’t let the guilt unraveled

    With our Best Regards,

    Carlos Viana aka Nocomply
    Filipe Mamede aka Godddam
    Luís Madeira aka Timber
    Mauro Tavares Van Eck aka Ox
    Nuno Tavares aka Stuntman
    Paulo Flor aka Flor
    Pedro Caldeira aka Caldeira
    Rafael Domingues aka Mano
    Rui Pires aka Penaleve
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    Mensaje  Jimmy jazz Jue Jun 06, 2013 12:11 pm

    Panzer hay q traducir,jajaja
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    Mensaje  Lobo Sáb Jun 08, 2013 10:08 am

    Básicamente dicen que muchos de los jugadores internacionales se han quejado de robo y de mala organización y exigen la devolución de sus inscripciones.

    Los organizadores se defienden diciendo que ellos han invertido una gran suma de dinero para estos eventos y claro el pan no es gratis,pero habría que ver que clase de pan les ofrecieron a los concursantes de esta edicion,porque no es lo mismo una baguette que una chapata. Very Happy

    Eso les pasa por no venir a la Barga,que aquí ofrecen cordero...y cordero nos comemos. Wink
    Espero nos veamos pronto...no voy a jugar porque no estoy legal con mis replicas...cosas de este gobierno de mierda...jeje
    Hasta pronto!!!!

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